Do we really need Separate Telangana?

Hi All,

Many of my friends have been asking why shouldn't we give separate Telangana state? And have been bombarded with several mails with so many points, how Telangana is losing with Andhra rulers. Some of the points are genuine, some are emotional and some are madeup. I try to answer some of those points.

1) There are 10 districts in Telangana, 9 in Andhra and 4 in Rayalaseema. Out of these 7 districts in Telangana, 3 in Andhra and 1 in Rayalaseema are considered severely backward districts which means 70% of districts in Telangana are backward while in Andhra it is 35% and in Rayalaseema it is 25%. Apart from these there are some areas in all parts of the state which are also backward.

reply> So, all the regions have backward places. This shows that, leaders have not done to anything for their region. But only few regions fared better becaus of geographical location, like delta regions.

b) 45% of the state income comes from Telangana region. When it comes to utilization of funds, the share of Telangana is only 28%.

reply> 45% of the income comes from Telangana. How much is out of Hyderabad? If so much is generated from Hyderabad, isn't it because of the development done by state govt? Obviously, when it is capital, many people from other areas migrate to it. And they bring valuable skills, money with them and make it their home. We cannot rule out any one's efforts in making hyderabad success.

c) Normally canals are dug to supply water to the crops from rivers for cultivation. The amount of land cultivated through canals in just Guntur district is more than the land cultivated with canals in entire Telangana region.

Reply> Guntur seems to have fared better because of Nagarjuna Sagar, which was built according to the agreement between then Telangana state and Andhra state.Nalgonda And Khammam districts togehter cultivate 6.7 Lakh acres against Guntur 7 lakh acres. Doesn't telangana have any more canals? I think the above statement is wrong.
Source: http://www.irrigation.ap.gov.in/

d) Nagarjuna sagar dam is built in Nalgonda district which is in Telangana but majority of the water from the dam is used for Krishna and Guntur district. The original dam was supposed to be build much ahead of its present location but the location was changed so that it falls in the Telangana region. Due to the construction of the dam several hectares of Lime stone mines vanished as part of the dam back waters. Everyone knows that lime stone is used for producing cement. Even the natural resources were not allowed to remain.

Reply> When major dams are built, water abviously fills lot of area. When building any major dam, many villages are vacated. Just look at the 3 gorges dam in China. Even towns were vacated. If they build 19 km down the river, Nalgonda and Khammam districts could lose out with less canal cultivated area. So, this is really better for Telangana.

e) Fluorinated water problem is only in Nalgonda district which has not been resolved since the formation of state. Because of this problem so many villages in Nalgonda district dies at the age of 30. It will take Govt will and budget to built water supply system (so many villages are within 10km distance of River Krishna). No Govt so far took any care.

Reply> This is a real problem. Though, can't blame andhra leaders only. Every leader is reponsible, including Telangana CMs and only telugu PM and local leaders.

f) RDS (Rajolibanda Diversion Scheme) is build in Mahaboobnagar to provide water to 85000 hectares of land in the district. The leaders of Rayalaseems blasted the gates of RDS and water is supplied to KC (Kurnool-Cudapah) canal while only remaining water, if any, is supplied to the lands in Mahaboobnagar. No action taken on them or the gates are not been repaired.

Reply> This goondaism and Kabjas are everyhwhere. This is statewide problem. Polam gattu
tagadala nundi, dam tagadala daka vachchayi. What are local leaders doing? What is our beloved KCR is doing. He should have agitated then itself. (Though these kind of things do not need agitation, nothings seem to work without agitation). What is Ponnala Lakshmiah doing all these days? He is also now demanding for separate state. What an opportunist?

h) 3 TMC of water from Gandipet is sufficient to supply drinking water to our city. Every year 1700 TMC of water is wasted and is flown into Bay of Bengal from river Godavari. Starting from Nizambad to Bay of Bengal there is no project allowed to build on Godavari. If it is built leaders in Godavari districts fear that the fertile lands in the area may fall short of water. If the Godavari water is utilized properly, there will be no scarcity for food grains in our state.

reply> Gandipet has 3TMC capacity only theoritically. Gandipet has only 1.3TMC capacity currently. If Gandipet water is sufficient for Hyderabad, why krishna water is pumped? Unlike Krishna, building dams on Godavaari is expensive because of the geography. Godavari people did not oppose Polavaram. So, don't spread rumours and hatred.

i) In Telangana regions, only few areas cultivate one crop a year and very rarely two crops a year while most of the land doesn’t even cultivate single crop. In both the Godavari districts, Krishna and Guntur district, two crops a year is common and there are times where even 3 crops a year are cultivated. The only reason is WATER.

Reply> Delta regions have more water resources and rich soil because of water sediments. So, they have more crops. And ground water level is also good. This is common all over the world. Don't envy. Anyone can go and buy land there and cultivate.

j) Government issue G.O.’s for implicating its decisions. G.O number 610 is the longest non implicated G.O in the history of AP. The G.O was issued in 1986 by late NTR who was then the CM of AP, which is not yet implicated. The G.O speaks about the share of Telangana employees in Government jobs in Telangana region.

Reply> Yes Telangana should have some local reservations in govt jobs. NTR has brought this (so, don't blame andhra leaders). However, When govt jobs are just 1% of the total employment, how will it solve Telangana problems? Will T-state pass GO stating all private industries should also take T-students?How can you jusify all Secrtariat or head office jobs should be for Telanganites becaus it is in Telangana? Since almost all headoffice are located in Hyd, these should not have any local reservations. It is almost saying like, all delhi jobs(central govt and heads of armed forces and their offices should be filled with delhiates).

k) 33% of the population in Mahaboobnagar district have left the district for livelihood to different parts of the state due to draught and majority of them are working as daily labour. No other district has so many people who fled the home place due to lack of livelihood and working as daily labour.

Reply> I agree. Sad story. Mahaboobnagar is not alone. Srikakulam and Ananthapur share the similar grief. District governments and allocating the rightfulshare to these people should solve these problems. LSP district govts proposal is the right way to prevent migrations for livelyhood.

l) There are 25 plus government degree colleges in Krishna, Kadapa and Guntur district while there is not even a single government degree college in Ranga Reddy district.

Reply> I do not know the figures. What are T politicians doing? OU has 138 colleges under it. If majority are based in Hyd, that is definitely the problem with elected leaders. T-Politicians can fight and get separate state, but cannot get colleges?

n) In between 2005-2008 government sold lands worth Rs. 20000 crores in and around Hyderabad which was utilized to build projects in Rayalaseema and Andhra.

Replay> YSR govt has sold the land all over AP. They might have sold more land in and around Hyd as it fetches more money. I am not sure. When lift irrigation projects require 3 to 4 lakhs capital and 40k per year running costs, how will they build new projects and how are they viable? Instead they should develop it with industries.

o) Not even a single project was completed in Telangana in the last 5 years while several projects were completed in Andhra and Rayalaseema.

Reply> Several projects completed? When I looked at irrigation dept website, most of the projects not even finished 20%. Anyone has facts obtained with RTI? Please pass on.
When all the CMs developed only Hyderabad (industrially, technologically...etc), How would one say Telangana region is ignored and Andhra region is developed?

p) T has different culture and slang and it is made fun in movies.

Reply> How silly it is. Why do people in T watch these movies and enjoy? If no people from Telangana watch these, will they produce these movies and play them in T? Because uttara ramayanam was produced in uttrandhra slang, shall they ask for separate state?

q) T has grand history in british empire itself. So, T-state is justified

Reply> This is another silly point. Shall we go back to before britsh rule and have our Nizam kingdom and Vijayanagara kingdom? How will this solve this so-called self respect and self rule?

When T is benefitting most from the free electricity for cultivation, how would you justify T was ignored? And how can farmers get cheap electricity in separate Telangana state?
It is easy to blame others. But it would be wise to think the solution. Does T state solve any of the problems? definitly KCR will become CM and solves his problem.

Jinnah also thought, Pakistan would be more prosperous as a separate country. He became father of that country. Now, we know their situation.

I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. But, I would ask people to think, if separate T state would solve their problems? I strongly feel, it does not. Maoists know, they cannot win the hearts of large population, despite having loopholes in our legal system and people are fed up with it. And they cannot win on the might of our police force. So, they want us to split up, so they can win easily.

Cheers,
Sunny

p.s.: These openions are my personal and have nothing to do with Loksatta party.

Hi All,

After seeing the societies in developed countries, we know the difference. Here we don't need to bribe to get a drving licence. We don't need to run to a leader for faulty street lights or a pit in the footpath or mosquitoes problem. Everything is so smooth and happens automatically. Why can't we have this in India? Some could argue, population in India is lot, hence getting these things is difficult. But it is not. See the Population density of the countries.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_population_densityCountries like Japan, Singapore have more density than us but still far better than us. Western europe is not lagging behind in terms of population density.

One of my friends asked, what can we do by living so far from India. Infact, we can do quiet a lot. We can educate people in our circle about same thing. We can inspire good people to be leaders are take part in politics. When a house is left vacant, or people don't live, house will be occupied all types of insects and even with pigs. In a similar way, when educated and good people abondon politics, they will be occupied by criminals and corrupt. It is time for us to act again and take our house back and kick the pigs and insects (Criminals & corrupt) out. Even if we ignore politics, politics won't ignore us. They rule us. Politicians make laws and corrupt politicians make our lives miserable. We end up not having basic facilities. Life will become a struggle. I agree that India is far better place than many third world countries. But this betterness is given by our previous generations by doing freedom fight etc.. So, what do we give to next generations? Let us give politics with ethics and politics for people. When politicians work for people and have a vision, A developed India is not far. im......... Am I already dreaming of a developed India? Well, when we don't dream, there is no goal.

It is amazing to see how many people are volunteering selflessly to make a change in GHMC elections. So many educated and successful persons in their respective careers are not only volunteering & campaigning but also contesting in the elections to bring back the real meaning of the politics and to make the society better. It is wonderful to see all these are working for Loksatta by spending their own money and time selflessly. I am extremely happy to see LSP is providing real platform for the people who want to change their society for good. All these individual efforts are now unified and have a goal and direction.

Mr Katari Srinivasarao, is a lecturer in Computer Sciences faculty in CBIT and is very active in social activities. He is the mayor candidate from Lok Satta. Yesterday, I spoke to Mr Ravi Varma, Candidate from Hyderguda division, is a software engineer by profession. He is a nice guy and good to hear on how he fought with the redtapism in beurocracy to make a change in his division. He is spending all his spare time for bringing change in politics and in society at the ground level.

What can we do from here?

• As said above, we can inspire people in our circle to volunteer, join LSP. I convinced my Dad, sister and uncles and many. I am sure, you too can.
• We can give e-support to the party. We can give our valuable suggestions. And make sure it is going in the right direction. Afterall, this is a platform for us.
• We can help by calling people and explain about LSP and ask them to vote. One of my Friends, Neelima garu, called about 300 people during last general elections.
• Party needs legitimate money for its genuine activities. Without money, there is nothing much anyone can do. Donate whatever you can. Every little helps. Take executive membership, that way party gets some funds. I am sure every rupee, of hard earned money, we donate is worth.

Last but not least. If you think there is another better party, please let me know. I am sure, you will struggle to find another better political platform in India which is working for people.

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Sunny

Mr Vijay Anand Visit on 31stOct2009

Hi All,

First of all, thank you very much for attending the lively discussion. Even this is first time for me to meet him. He is really a talented, committed and simple guy.

I cannot join Indian political parties, as I do not have normal Indian citizenship. The only little I can do is to support them for bringing change in India and Indian society. As Mr. Vijay said, even 10000 NGO idividuals or groups cannot bring change in India even in 100 years. Only governments can make India a developed country. So, there is a great need for us to support LSP.

We dont need to donate lakhs of rupees. But, every little helps. It would be great, if all of us or most of us take Executive membership by paying $200. I know $200 sounds a lot for some of us. However, a party needs legitimate funds for functioning. And those funds should come from the people like us, who wants to see India as a developed country and every citizen enjoying equal opportunities. Otherwise, our next generation will be left at the mercy of criminal politicians. India has given us all great opportunities and good careers. We are lucky in many ways. There are lot of people, left out because of lack of opportunities. It is time to pay back a little.

Think: Odarche pedavula kanna, Sayam chese chetule minna.

I requested my father to go to Hyderabad to campaign in GHMC election for LSP. Even in 63, he is going for it. I don't think, he can or would expect a political career at this age, but love to give some fruits (Good politics) to next generation of India.

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. Join LSP and work with LSP to bring change.

I am not saying LSP is a 100% perfect party. But it is 1000 times better than any other party in India. And certainly has potential to change India.

Join LSP at http://www.loksatta.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=363

Discuss your questions or watch the discussion of volunteers and even some patriotic persons here. http://www.orkut.com/Main#Community?cmm=59777834

"The silence of good people is more dangerous than the brutality of bad people." -- Martin Luther King

I know you are all good people. Don't be silent. Join LSP.

Let me know, if anyone of you like to me to add to "Supporters of Loksatta Switzerland" google group.

Sunny

Mr Vijay Anand Visit

Uniting Supporters of Loksatta in Switzerland





Mr Vijay Anand, President of the Loksatta party Taminadu wing, and president of the 5thPillar (www.5thpillar.org) will be visting us as part of his US and Europe tour in Basel on 30th Oct2009 (Friday) and Zurich on 31stOct2009 (Saturday). He wants to meet supporters of anti corruption. He is the President of fifth pillar and Lok Satta Tamil Nadu. He lived in the United States for a decade and now he lives in India. He is planning to officially launch Lok Satta party in Tamil Nadu on January 14th, 2010 (Pongal).

We can get more details about Mr Vijay anand in this website www.5thpillar.org

Please spread this news in your friends circle.

"The silence of good people is more dangerous than the brutality of bad people." -- Martin Luther King

We welcome all supporters of Loksatta in the regions to meet him and have an interactive session.

Zurich Meeting:
Saturday (31st Oct 2009) 5:30 PM
Location: Mudunuru, Sandacker 8, 8052 Seebach
Map: http://map.search.ch/zuerich/sandacker-8
Travel Directions from Zurich HB or Oerlikon, Zurich:
Take tram 14. And get down at the last stop Seebach. Walk north on Schaffhauserstrasse for approx 2 minutes. You will see Sandacker on the right after crossing Fischer hotel.


Basel Meeting:
Friday (30th Oct 2009)
Location: Bala Muppala, Horburg str 7, Basel 4057
Time: 7:00 PM

Please vote at below link, if you are interested to have an interactive session with Mr. Vijay Anand. Please give each person name in the poll as the numbers are needed for logistics.

http://www.doodle.com/6pmpvfgmt3v7t7cu

For more details, please contact the below people.

Zurich:
Mr Sunny Mudunuru
email: rajums@gmail.com
ph: 0762425462,
0325114657

Basel:
Mr Bala Muppala
email: balachandar.muppala@gmail.com

+41 79 545 59 11 (Mobile)
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Links:

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